Comments - Proprietors Cup - Scoring pace - RealBowlers2024-03-28T21:44:26Zhttp://realbowlers.ning.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=2153999%3ABlogPost%3A92821&xn_auth=noCongrats on making money Terr…tag:realbowlers.ning.com,2012-07-18:2153999:Comment:929642012-07-18T22:59:42.426ZJoe Beckhttp://realbowlers.ning.com/profile/JoeBeck
<p>Congrats on making money Terry Wilson Jr. </p>
<p>I don't think you understand my point. By the analogies of several earlier comments one could conclude that the PBA shouldn't use the Cheetah pattern because the scoring pace is higher. My point is, the pattern doesn't matter, as long as everybody gets the same look. I don't care if the overall tournament average is 165 or 225, most bowlers scores will reflect the difficulty of the lanes - even the top pros. So, given that, if I want to host…</p>
<p>Congrats on making money Terry Wilson Jr. </p>
<p>I don't think you understand my point. By the analogies of several earlier comments one could conclude that the PBA shouldn't use the Cheetah pattern because the scoring pace is higher. My point is, the pattern doesn't matter, as long as everybody gets the same look. I don't care if the overall tournament average is 165 or 225, most bowlers scores will reflect the difficulty of the lanes - even the top pros. So, given that, if I want to host a tournament that allows the top pros to bowl and I hope to draw ANY regular bowlers out as well, I cannot offer a condition where they feel they have no chance. The pros will adapt to anything, so why not set up a more scorable condition so they can at least hope to get lucky.</p>
<p>at least you spelled 'idiot' correctly</p> hahahhahahaha i would comment…tag:realbowlers.ning.com,2012-07-18:2153999:Comment:927202012-07-18T18:21:17.600ZTerry Wilson Jrhttp://realbowlers.ning.com/profile/TerryWilsonJr
<p>hahahhahahaha i would comment/reply back to this idiot JOE BUCK but he's a waste of time!!! u have no idea of how much money I've made in bowling!!!!! GO AWAY....we were talking about theo's posted a blog about the PROPRIETORS CUP AND ITS TOURNY STRUCTURE!!!! no one is complaining.....we just don't believe its the greatest of all ideas!!!!</p>
<p>hahahhahahaha i would comment/reply back to this idiot JOE BUCK but he's a waste of time!!! u have no idea of how much money I've made in bowling!!!!! GO AWAY....we were talking about theo's posted a blog about the PROPRIETORS CUP AND ITS TOURNY STRUCTURE!!!! no one is complaining.....we just don't believe its the greatest of all ideas!!!!</p> I only see negative comments…tag:realbowlers.ning.com,2012-07-18:2153999:Comment:926482012-07-18T16:59:55.682ZJoe Beckhttp://realbowlers.ning.com/profile/JoeBeck
<p>I only see negative comments and those come from folks who failed to make money. How about this concept:</p>
<p>Yes a house shot is easier, but... I don't expect to win on a house shot averaging 225 - 230. Skill IS required in that you don't carry consistently if you don't throw the ball well. THAT is why the best bowlers rise to the top. An easier shot means higher scores, but it still never results in a win by someone who was not bowling well. Making the correct adjustments - equipment,…</p>
<p>I only see negative comments and those come from folks who failed to make money. How about this concept:</p>
<p>Yes a house shot is easier, but... I don't expect to win on a house shot averaging 225 - 230. Skill IS required in that you don't carry consistently if you don't throw the ball well. THAT is why the best bowlers rise to the top. An easier shot means higher scores, but it still never results in a win by someone who was not bowling well. Making the correct adjustments - equipment, hand, angle, whatever - to carry is a skill too. The guy that makes the correct adjustment soonest wins. Stop complaining and start practicing.</p> I have never seen a scratch t…tag:realbowlers.ning.com,2012-07-17:2153999:Comment:927162012-07-17T20:05:52.834ZChasehttp://realbowlers.ning.com/profile/Cirocco
<p>I have never seen a scratch tournament where the scores were so high. I personally feel like a scratch bowling tournament should be at least "a little" harder than seeing who will "carry" the best.... </p>
<p> Just my 2 cents...</p>
<p>I have never seen a scratch tournament where the scores were so high. I personally feel like a scratch bowling tournament should be at least "a little" harder than seeing who will "carry" the best.... </p>
<p> Just my 2 cents...</p> Well,
It seems Mr. Williams,…tag:realbowlers.ning.com,2012-07-17:2153999:Comment:928292012-07-17T18:10:34.666ZF.O.Xhttp://realbowlers.ning.com/profile/FOX
Well,<br />
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It seems Mr. Williams, Mr Wilson, myself and probably a few others concur that when you go to a tournament, that it should be a test of skill and knowledge of bowling. Not who can carry the best.<br />
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Yet, Mike hit the nail on the head. The tournaments today are to make money. In order to make money, the shot has to be "soft" because if it's not, the entries go down, and the TRUE bowlers take over with their knowledge and skill.<br />
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"House shots aren't bowling, you dont have to have any skill…
Well,<br />
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It seems Mr. Williams, Mr Wilson, myself and probably a few others concur that when you go to a tournament, that it should be a test of skill and knowledge of bowling. Not who can carry the best.<br />
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Yet, Mike hit the nail on the head. The tournaments today are to make money. In order to make money, the shot has to be "soft" because if it's not, the entries go down, and the TRUE bowlers take over with their knowledge and skill.<br />
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"House shots aren't bowling, you dont have to have any skill to hit them." Quoted from Mike A Williams II<br />
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I'm done....... This tournament was a really…tag:realbowlers.ning.com,2012-07-17:2153999:Comment:929582012-07-17T14:15:44.171ZMichael A Williams IIhttp://realbowlers.ning.com/profile/MichaelAWilliamsII
<p>This tournament was a really confusing to me... I bowled in the team event on Friday with Team Track, i was very disappointed at how easy that lane condition was to hit... When a bowler puts in that kind of money $1100 there needs to be a tough shot out on the lanes.. A shot where the bowlers have to use all of there knowledge about the game to succeed.</p>
<p>It just hurts me to see bowling center proprietors and tournament directors put on events to make money instead of preserving the…</p>
<p>This tournament was a really confusing to me... I bowled in the team event on Friday with Team Track, i was very disappointed at how easy that lane condition was to hit... When a bowler puts in that kind of money $1100 there needs to be a tough shot out on the lanes.. A shot where the bowlers have to use all of there knowledge about the game to succeed.</p>
<p>It just hurts me to see bowling center proprietors and tournament directors put on events to make money instead of preserving the integrity of the game. It just seems that if bowling was easy everyone would do it for a living. House shots aren't bowling, you dont have to have any skill to hit them. There is a man legally blind that bowls here in montgomery, al he averages 215 in the house. no one want to go to a tournament where a 230 average doesnt cash, that is ludacris.</p> LOL. I have to agree with Mr.…tag:realbowlers.ning.com,2012-07-17:2153999:Comment:928262012-07-17T05:39:16.613ZF.O.Xhttp://realbowlers.ning.com/profile/FOX
LOL. I have to agree with Mr. Wilson, that wasn't a good idea to have such a soft shot for the caliber of bowlers in the field.<br />
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Then the 1100.oo entry fee is even funnier to bowl on a house shot. Yet, the 1100.oo is a mere drop in the bucket for most of them because most of the players there are either on staff or sponsored by someone.<br />
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The Proprietor's Cup was a big ticket, big name carry contest. Nothing more, nothing less.<br />
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The entry fee: 1100.00<br />
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The names: Jason Couch, Anthony Pepe,…
LOL. I have to agree with Mr. Wilson, that wasn't a good idea to have such a soft shot for the caliber of bowlers in the field.<br />
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Then the 1100.oo entry fee is even funnier to bowl on a house shot. Yet, the 1100.oo is a mere drop in the bucket for most of them because most of the players there are either on staff or sponsored by someone.<br />
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The Proprietor's Cup was a big ticket, big name carry contest. Nothing more, nothing less.<br />
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The entry fee: 1100.00<br />
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The names: Jason Couch, Anthony Pepe, Frankie Calca, Shannon Pluhowsky, Brandon Novak, JonathanVan Hees, Dean Billings, Jim Petzel, Fero Williams, Mason Brantley made the top 10.<br />
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3056/656 over. avg 254<br />
3008/608 over. avg 250<br />
2946/546 over. avg 245<br />
2923/523 over. avg 243<br />
2921/521 over. avg 243<br />
2899/499 over. avg 241<br />
2840/440 over. avg 237<br />
2838/438 over. avg 237<br />
2832/432 over. avg 236<br />
2828/428 over. avg 236<br />
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These are the top ten scores and averages for 12 GAMES?!<br />
Do you know how many strike had to be thrown to accomplish this?<br />
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These are the facts, and the facts don't lie.<br />
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Carry contest, not skill contest. Just a question of who can carry the corners like Mr Wilson stated........ but shootout to the homie mas…tag:realbowlers.ning.com,2012-07-16:2153999:Comment:926422012-07-16T10:02:52.178ZTerry Wilson Jrhttp://realbowlers.ning.com/profile/TerryWilsonJr
<p>but shootout to the homie mason b...mr RMG!!! holding it down for us Detroit Players!!!! lol</p>
<p>but shootout to the homie mason b...mr RMG!!! holding it down for us Detroit Players!!!! lol</p> good concept??? NOT QUIET!!!…tag:realbowlers.ning.com,2012-07-16:2153999:Comment:929522012-07-16T10:01:48.599ZTerry Wilson Jrhttp://realbowlers.ning.com/profile/TerryWilsonJr
<p>good concept??? NOT QUIET!!!! that tourney has no potential to grow...amateurs are AFRAID to bowl pros and pros despise THS...add that fat 1100 dollar ticket....equals poor participation!!!! the 55 ppl they had bowline this weekend was MAX!!!! no way they can improve on that...i wish these guys the best as well but they can work on that concept of pro+ths+$1100!!!! lmbo...i don't care how good u think u are...im sure mr gates himself thinks 1100 is a pretty penny to gamble on corner…</p>
<p>good concept??? NOT QUIET!!!! that tourney has no potential to grow...amateurs are AFRAID to bowl pros and pros despise THS...add that fat 1100 dollar ticket....equals poor participation!!!! the 55 ppl they had bowline this weekend was MAX!!!! no way they can improve on that...i wish these guys the best as well but they can work on that concept of pro+ths+$1100!!!! lmbo...i don't care how good u think u are...im sure mr gates himself thinks 1100 is a pretty penny to gamble on corner carry!!! lol </p>